Let me ask you a sincere question. Have you ever struggled with fear or feeling like you don't

have the courage to try something new, reach your goals, make changes, or just adjusting anything

in your life? I think we all struggle with fear holding us back in some way or another. And if you

are one of those people, because I think most of us are, you're going to love today's guest.

From the Outback Australia to Fortune 500 boardrooms, NASA and the U.S. Congress, Dr. Margie

Orrell's insights in leading change, navigating risk and cultivating courage in ourselves

and others have made her a global authority in leadership development.

She's a best-selling author, global speaker,

leadership coach, and a women's leadership advocate. Margie Bridges head and heart to empower

people to make decisions and take bolder action. She is also the host of the Live Brave podcast

and her sixth book, The Courage Gap, released in January of 2025. It's a really,

really great book. Outside of work, Margie loves adventure, travel, and all things, just fun times.

She has four teenage kids, and she's also climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. So she is a phenomenal

human being. She's got so many good insights. She's got a lot of life experience,

and I'm so excited to have her on the podcast today to help us better bridge the gap between

the things we want, fear, and creating that courage to actually bridge the gap towards our goals.

And if you find this episode helpful, don't forget to share it with your friends, your family,

on social media, and to tag me.

I think we all have goals and things we want to move towards, but fear is holding us back.

So I think an episode on understanding how to build the courage muscle is very helpful for

anyone in any circumstance.

We didn't talk about this a ton in the episode, but I did add a quiz from Dr. Worrell on courage so you can test

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