Think about cheese.

Make your thoughts cheesier.

Now add 100% chicken breast fillet,

Chipotle sauce and Amadea cheese melt.

And it's giving the new cheesy chicken stack at McDonald's.

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Subjects availability. Hello, welcome to the rest of money with me, Steph McGovern.

I'm with me, Robert Peston.

So what treat have we got today, Steph?

We have got an interview with Juergen Meyer, who is former CEO of Siemens UK.

He's now the chair of Great British Energy.

So this is the UK's publicly owned clean energy companies, how they describe themselves.

But I guess we want to talk to him about what exactly it really is.

That's right.

And this thing about G.B. Energy is, you know, it was one of this government's or the Labor Party's big promises, big plans, you know, when it was campaigning in the general election, big part of the election manifesto.

There's an enormous amount of money, billions actually being provided by the taxpayer to GB Energy.

But weirdly, we've heard almost nothing of any real detail about what it's doing,

what its ambitions are.

It, you know, the government makes very general big claims for it,

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