Before we get into today's episode, we've got some exciting news, haven't we, sir?

Yeah, the excitement in your voice for a start. Yeah, we do, because we are going to do our first ever live show. We're bringing the rest of money to the stage for the first time next year, and we'd love it if you would join us. I mean, this is an exciting time because the thing is, when we, you know, with a live show, anything could happen. Who knows what you might do, Robert? I'll probably sing. Oh, God. We want people to come, though. Don't be mean. They can check out my singing online. But this is a chance to get our thoughts as and when they pop into our heads as well. You know, who knows what would be happening that day we're on. But, you know, you're getting the news first with us and analysis and everything as well.

And let's be absolutely clear. It's obviously going to be a private conversation just between us

and a few hundred. So a few hundred of you. So we'll reveal all our secrets. Yeah, of course we will.

Let me tell you the details, though. It's on the 4th of September, 2026.

It's part of the Goalhanger Groups.

The rest is Fest.

See what we've done there with the name?

We're taking over the South Bank Centre in London for three days of shows from all of the Goal Hangar Universe.

So the rest is politics to Sherlock and Cor.

So tickets are on sale now.

I mean, our promise to you is that what we're talking about will be totally relevant to your

interest in your lives.

Search southbankcenter.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.uk. To find those tickets.

Yeah, Southbank Centre.com.

com.

Tickets for our show and all the other Goalhanger podcasts are available now.

And one final time, Southbankcenter.

com.

Right, let's crack on with the show.

Hello and welcome to The Rest Is Money with me, Robert Pairston. And me, Steph McGovern. And we are together in the same room, which is unusual. So nice. It's been too long, Steph. I know, it has, hasn't it? But here we are together in the run-up to Christmas as well. We've got lots of episodes. Have you been doing your Christmas shopping then? Is that why you're down? No. But you know why I am, two things. One is I am the ultimate Christmas shopper, as in I do it throughout the year. So I don't have to. Because you're so well organised. So you see something and you think, have. Yep. Have you got my present already? You have. Yeah, yeah. Obviously my present. Oh no, that's so much pressure. How could you? No, I wish I hadn't asked that question. Yeah. I know, but I just, I hate that pressure at Christmas when everyone's just running about trying to like frantically buy stuff. And you just end up buying rubbish or you end up paying too much for it. So I'm a throughout the year kind of girl. Oh my God. I'm just a sort of essay crisis, last minute panic person, I'm afraid. So have you started? A little bit, yeah. I mean, look, I try to do the, you know, something may land in my inbox, you know. What do you mean? Something lands in your inbox? Well, you know, so there are certain brands I quite like and they'll be something going to

land in my inbox sort of, you know, with a sort of product and I think, oh yeah, so and so would like that. So I do, occasionally I get triggered to buy something a little bit ahead of time, but mostly I don't. Mostly it is an absolute nightmare. Okay. So anyone out Christmas shopping in London

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