225 - John Vervaeke - Angels in Scientific Terms - Part 2

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

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🗓️ 14 March 2022

⏱️ 73 minutes

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John Vervaeke and I continue where we left off in our last conversation, discussing the agency, intelligence and consciousness of interpersonal beings (angels) in both symbolic and secular terms. Original video: https://youtu.be/2BVjIOpV9KQ - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

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0:00.0	And so I guess my goal is to continue the conversation from where we kind of stopped the last one,
0:05.9	which is looking at, I guess, in a certain manner, what the notion of agency is and, you know,
0:14.0	how that relates to a person, but then how agency relates to other forms of beings,
0:19.1	especially kind of higher beings the way that we talked about
0:23.1	it, let's say, are transpersonal beings.
0:25.2	Sure, sure.
0:25.9	That's really what, I guess that's what we left on a kind of cliffhanger on the last
0:31.3	talk, and I saw a lot of people in the comment saying, oh, no, like this is, it was an interesting
0:34.8	part.
0:35.2	So I'm hoping to kind of explore that with you.
0:38.5	And so, yeah, if you're fine with that, we'll go forward.
0:41.1	That'd be great.
0:41.9	I mean, that, so the talk I gave at Cambridge was based on the work that I've done with Chan
0:47.8	Chiappian, the three papers I published last year on the NASA scientists maneuvering
0:52.5	the rovers on Mars.
0:54.0	Yeah, yeah.
0:54.4	And all that.
0:55.7	And then I just did my course on the nature and function of the self.
1:02.4	And of course, relationships between consciousness, self and agency are now fresh on my mind.
1:07.8	So I'm really geared to go.
1:09.4	I'm really geared to go.
1:36.1	Yeah. now fresh on my mind. So I'm really geared to go. I'm really geared to go. This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. All right. So maybe I can I can give you layout the way that I see it, let's say.
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