Hey, welcome to Jabu's Julie, and I'm at Mission Coffee Roasters in the Colorado Springs with Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife, Erin Smalley. Good to be here. She makes me call her. She makes me call with that. Somebody walked in yesterday and they said, we're here to see Dr. Smalley. And I was like, I like, I like that. And they're referring to you. They were referring to me and I had to let them know. I am not a doctor. Can you share his doctor degree?

I earned it.

I think I did more of his papers than he did. She's way smarter than me. She should. I'll just give it to you. It's yours. Well, I, yeah, you just give it up that easily. Can't you? Can't you just give it to someone? Yeah, I understand that in Germany Germany that if your spouse is a doctor, you're referred to as doctor as well.

Really?

Can we move to Germany?

Give that little bit of prayer.

Yeah.

That was like when I went to Alaska, I was like, I love it here. And he's like, Aaron, I'm going to show you the average weather pattern. Did you go in the summer? We went in the summer. That's the point. Who doesn't like Alaska besides the mosquitoes in the summertime? Who doesn't like Akron, Ohio in the summer? Everybody. Which is where I'm going. But you don't want to live there in the winter.

Anyway, we're not going to talk about that today.

What we are going to talk about is we're going to talk about counseling and the importance of counseling and just kind of navigating those waters.

And you both are counselors and you both have been in counseling.

And Erin counsels me all the time.

You both need counseling.

All three of us do.

Yes, who doesn't.

This is turn this into a group session right here.

Steve will let you do the counseling today, our engineer.

Just sit there real serious looking, go, that's interesting.

Yeah, three therapists walk into a room, right?

There you go.

And only one comes out.

There we go.

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