Cody, what if, this is what I've been thinking about lately, what if everything we're thinking

about is just kind of wrong? Thinking Basketball Podcast, my name is Ben. Welcome back to another show and yeah I've been thinking about a lot of stuff lately. We're deep in the

summer thinking about the way we think about basketball and talk about the best players

and you know

know the greatest players of all time and the greatest this and that and you know

Seth's part now does the Tears Project on the Athletic.

Have you, you know what I'm talking about?

Have you seen that where he puts all the players

in different Tears to try to catalog

how to stack up the superstars of the league

and the all-stars and good role players.

Did you see that one that just just came out at all?

I haven't personally read it but I'm definitely aware of what he does and I'm aware of the

project and the way that he does that and I I kind of dig it I like the the intellectual

pursuit that he goes through with yeah yeah I think he I think he did a good job with it and I don't know

how much is controversial but I'm I'm soaking all this in lately

Cody and the thing I keep kind of coming back to is are we are we sure about the things we think we're

sure about in basketball do we really have like like like look okay let's think about like the greatest players of all time and

and a lot of ink has been spilled over especially these days with Michael Jordan and LeBron James and you know which one of

those two guys is is it only those two guys but here's the thing like if

if someone comes up on the street and says who's the best player you've ever

seen at their best so forget career forget accolades just the stuff that we do like

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