Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We have a big day. Huge. And that is because we have

the Gia Tolentino here today. Before I read her bio, I need to tell Gia, one of my favorite

Gia Tolentino stories, which Gia and I have many, many funny stories together, which is interesting

since we have never met. And most of our experiences have been extremely one-sided. But I have a group,

I have a few groups, you know how we all have those groups of women that we have on text or

unzoom where when shit happens, we just kind of check in with each other. So there's this one group

of smart people who we check in with each other whenever shit hits the fan in the world. So a lot

of times, which is happening with some regularity. Yes. And there is this one recurring thing that people

often say, which is kind of like a what would Jesus do situation, which you'll know from your,

we both have evangelical pasts. Certainly do. Certainly do. But ours is more like what did Gia

write? And it's real. It's real. Somebody will say it. What would Gia write? And it kind of works

because you can say like, Gia'sus, so it like goes, Gia'sus. Yeah, which I know you're going to

really love. But if we have one complaint, it's that we often have to wait a long time for

a Gia'sus take and we're mad now. Okay. So like, we'll have to wait for a New Yorker piece to come

out or sometimes we get lucky and you're on a podcast. But it takes a while. And that's annoying.

And so one time one of the women in the group said, well, what did Gia'sus write? And I was thinking

for a while and I thought, you guys, what if Gia'sus is trying to tell us something? Like what if

what if we're supposed to ink hard and do research? What if you're your own personal Gia? What if

I have I do have a Jesus inside of me who can stay calm and cool and collected and like think hard

and keep an open mind and open heart and interview people and then come to a nuanced conclusion

and a month later. And when my favorite group they thought for a while and my friend said,

fuck that. We don't have time. I'm mad now. What do we tweet?

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