21st century peaks Ep 11 | Judging playoff value beyond scoring
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🗓️ 26 September 2025
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Summary
How do we make sense of small samples and outlier signals in the playoffs? How much should specifically good or bad matchups influence playoff “performance?” We discuss some titanic big men, their coaches, environments, teammate synergies and how much we should care about their individual scoring numbers in the postseason. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball
Previously discussed players and their ranges:
Jason Kidd [21-32]
Jayson Tatum [20-28]
Dwight Howard [17-28]
Draymond Green [18-26]
Manu Ginobili [17-24]
James Harden [13-25]
Luka Doncic [12-24]
Tracy McGrady [10-24]
Anthony Davis [12-23]
Joel Embiid [10-23]
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander [7-20]
Dirk Nowitzki [7-19]
Chris Paul [6-17]
Steve Nash [8-19]
Kawhi Leonard [7-16]
Kevin Durant [7-15]
Giannis Antetokounmpo [6-15]
Kobe Bryant [6-15]
Dwyane Wade [4-11]
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Thinking Basketball Podcast. My name is Ben. Welcome back to episode 11 of our best peaks of the |
| 0:15.6 | 21st century. We have made it to the top five. |
| 0:26.3 | And one of the things that we've discussed in this series quite a bit is the difference between regular season signals and regular season performance of players and |
| 0:30.9 | playoff signals and playoff performance. |
| 0:33.1 | Because at the end of the day, we tend to care about what both a team and an individual provide in the postseason against the best competition. |
| 0:43.0 | When we have this quirky thing, this really quirky fun thing in basketball where the opponent can scheme for you and game plan for you as a series progresses. |
| 0:51.8 | And you have to find these counters as an aside. |
| 0:54.3 | I think game four has become my favorite game in all playoff series because you have the |
| 0:58.7 | initial salvo, you have the first counter, you have the second counter, and then you get to |
| 1:02.4 | game four and you're like, okay, we're running out of counters. |
| 1:05.4 | It's time to go. |
| 1:06.5 | And so how do we evaluate these playoff performances? |
| 1:11.3 | That's been something that's sort of been a question in the background as we go through and talk about all these players. |
| 1:17.4 | And today, the players that we're going to talk about, the big men, threw it down, Bill Walton. |
| 1:22.8 | Like the big men that we're going to talk about today, this is almost the first thing that came into my head |
| 1:29.3 | went sitting down and saying, all right, like, what are we, what is the big topic that |
| 1:36.9 | jumps right out to me? So, for instance, Nicola Yokic, great player, right, Cody? |
| 1:44.6 | Oh, yeah. |
| 1:44.9 | He's okay. |
| 1:45.7 | We've talked about him a ton on this show. |
| 1:48.9 | But we have Nicola Okich basically starting his prime in the bubble. |
| 1:54.4 | And then Jamal Murray gets injured. |
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