21st century peaks Ep 12 | The 3 LeBrody problem

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🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

We look at, perhaps, the 3 best peaks of the 21st century, all from slightly different time periods, environments and circumstances. How does an “ideal” or non ideal environment influence how we evaluate a mega peak? How do we account for era changes that influence spacing and the proliferation of shooters? Can anyone solve the 3 LeBrody problem? Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

Previously discussed players and their ranges:

Jason Kidd [21-32]

Jayson Tatum [20-28]

Dwight Howard [17-28]

Draymond Green [18-26]

Manu Ginobili [17-24]

James Harden [13-25]

Luka Doncic [12-24]

Tracy McGrady [10-24]

Anthony Davis [12-23]

Joel Embiid [10-23]

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander [7-20]

Dirk Nowitzki [7-19]

Chris Paul [6-17]

Steve Nash [8-19]

Kawhi Leonard [7-16]

Kevin Durant [7-15]

Giannis Antetokounmpo [6-15]

Kobe Bryant [6-15]

Dwyane Wade [4-11]

Transcript

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0:00.0	Thinking basketball podcast.
0:09.1	My name is Ben.
0:10.1	Welcome back to episode 12 of when we talk about the top players of the 21st century.
0:18.2	Maybe we should do a recap before we start, Cody.
0:21.4	Oh, yeah. That's not like a good idea? Let's recap, yeah. Let's recap. Um, let's recap the list
0:27.9	starting back at number 25. We had Jason Kidd. 24 was Jason Tatum. 23 was Dwight Howard.
0:36.5	Now, we talk about ranges a lot, and I think it's important to emphasize
0:40.7	the closeness of a lot of these players. So, Kid, we had anywhere from 21st to 32nd. Tatum we had
0:49.4	from 20th to 28th. Dwight Howard, we had from 17th to 28th. The next player on our list that we
0:55.6	discussed was Draymond Green. Let me talk about the low end of the range as we go through. His
1:00.7	low end was 26th. Manu Genoblee was next. At number 21, his low end was 24. Number 20 was James
1:09.9	Harden. His low end was 25. Luca Donchich was 19th. This is actually all
1:15.6	going to be in the show description. If you're interested, I can just add it to the bottom of the show.
1:21.3	Tracy McGrady, Anthony Davis, Joelle and Bede were next. 15th was Shea Gildes-Alexandered
1:25.7	Alexander. Then Dirk Novitsky, Chris Paul, Steve
1:29.2	Nash was 12th, Kauai Leonard 11th, Kevin Durant 10th. And in our top 10, we had Janus,
1:35.4	Kobe, Dwayne Wade was seventh. And last time we discussed, did we rank them last time?
1:41.8	I can't remember. I thought so. I know for sure KG was the top of the three.
1:46.7	I don't remember what happened with Duncan and Yokin.
1:48.8	Yeah, we had Duncan 6th, Yokic fifth, KG, fourth.
1:52.2	We'll come back and talk about them when we wrap up everyone and get everyone on the board.
1:59.1	But today, we only have three players left to discuss.
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