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The Talk Show With John Gruber

217: ‘Our Name Is Our Address’ With Jason Kottke

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2018

⏱️ 139 minutes

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Summary

Finally. Jason Kottke is on the show to talk about 20 years of writing his eponymous website.

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0:00.0

Finally. That's what you say, right? That's what I say. I'm the master. I'm the

0:07.0

light. I am the licensee of finally. One of the reasons that you're here now is that

0:13.5

your website, Kotky.org, has hit the 20-year marker, which now that I say it, at least

0:20.2

that first time I've actually spoken it aloud, and it just put like a dagger of old age

0:24.8

down my heart. No, it's crazy. But one of the things that I wanted to talk about, to

0:33.1

talk about with you, is over the years I've noticed many times, often commemorating

0:37.4

anniversaries like the 20th or the 15th or whatever. You'll say or you'll write that you

0:42.9

don't consider yourself a writer, which I think is a very strange thing to say for some

0:49.4

of you who's written so much, but I know what you mean, I think. But I consider you to

0:53.6

be an absolutely perfect writer. You write what you want to write, and I feel like you're

0:59.8

at least to me, you're conveying exactly what you want to convey perfectly.

1:04.4

Yeah. I guess I would consider myself a blogger first. Someone who uses writing in the goal,

1:16.4

maybe there's a different goal. A novelist is a novelist, and they use writing to pursue

1:23.5

the goal of doing all the things that a novelist does. But I feel like my primary interest is,

1:35.0

I want to share this thing with you, or this other thing that this real writer wrote about,

1:43.0

something like, I want to share that with you, and I'm sort of using, like I talk,

1:52.1

and the site is very much, the voice of the site is very much me writing an email to a friend

2:01.1

about this cool thing that I saw. Well, the weird thing is that there is no one way to be a writer,

2:07.0

and I guess the idealized form, and maybe kids today don't feel it anymore, but at least when

2:13.4

I was growing up, a novelist would be like the top rung of the ladder, like the hammingways

2:19.8

and Fitzgeralds, and just name of either historical or even current day, that is the pinnacle of

2:27.5

like, indisputably you are a writer if you have written and published novels. I move down from the,

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