I have people come up to me now and they're like, we're going to be the largest law from

in America.

And I said, okay, that's great.

Is it for me or for you?

And I think sometimes there's just a lot of ego wrapped up in it and it makes sense to you

because if you're not sold on your own goals, if you're just throwing out a big number,

then you're not going to be able to sell anybody else.

I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs.

In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market

leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,

challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer. This is Jessica,

head of coaching strategy at Chris, and today we're flipping the script for another special edition

episode to get Michael's take on, how to inspire a team to achieve growing targets and goals, the importance of clarity in all aspects of your firm, and how to remain objective when delivering tough feedback. Someone tells you how this team's not performing well. Well, let's review the data and see what are the trends looking like. I of things just gotten worse this week or this month or this quarter.

What was it like this time last year?

Does no one give a shit?

Because I think as leaders we just immediately default to, they just don't care.

But the reality of it is is that that's rarely the case.

That's coming up on the game- Changing Attorney podcast.

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