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And we are back and officially starting, and we got a special one today.

First of all, I brought Steve Berg with because Andy, he's being cool about it, but he's geeking out right now.

He is not geeking out more than I am.

I listen to this show all the time.

I'm the crazy person who texts Jake, and he's like, just fuck off.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have the great Andy Roddock with us.

Andy and I did the movie, uh, ding Together, and that was, by the way, you are so funny in it, man.

Should we talk about the part where I'm the former athlete and I got laid up and couldn't walk one morning from playing pickleball and you were like Cal Ripkin?

No, well, hold on. Let's live in reality. Half the time there was a guy who looked just like me who was playing. That is true. You got the outfits were just... And the brakes helped a lot. The breaks? I don't know. I'm just telling you, I don't undersell your just, you're just physicality, Jake.

It was impressive. By the way, it was, at least from my end of it, it was really hard and truly

stressful playing in front of those extras. I don't know if you felt any of it because you've done

this at such a bigger stage, but I'll look at that pickleball and I'm like, I don't want to be hitting right now. I hate this. You were nervous in front of the people that were scripted to cheer for you no matter what you did? Yes. Because guess what? If I keep hitting it into the net, all of a sudden the director is going to start getting mad. Everyone's going to get

but every time I was like, oh, fucking tennis and pickleball. I was like, this is a different level of pressure, man. I don't like this. He got good though. He did. And the thing is, I think you feel the stresses when it's like your thing. You probably feel stresses that other people don't when they're just kind of along for the ride. Yeah, that makes sense. How stressful. I know this is a stupid

question. I asked you a little bit

while we were together just because I love talking to athletes because it's similar to our game,

but very different. How scary was like playing at the U.S. Open? Like, how aware were you mentally

where you're like, this serve really matters? Yeah. I don't, I mean, it's scary, but it's basically just scary because of consequence, right? Like, I have, I've talked to people on our podcast, you know, where we just nerd out on tennis stuff, who were like, great players, like win multiple slams. And they go, I got scared because I didn't want to play in front of people. I never really felt that. I was like, I don't want to, I'm scared because I'm not as good as the person I'm trying to beat today. Right. Like it's a very different stressors, right? So I didn't really pay attention to people in the whole thing. It was more just like, can I actually do what I need to do to not suck? Right.

Berg, you got any deep dive tennis questions you want to get into really fast?

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