Hey guys, it's Mike Gro, this is the way I heard it episode number 213.

And it's called, it's not what you'd call a page turner.

On this episode, Chuck and I unpack the final chapter of my book with a little help from

a very special guest who has become the undisputed audience favorite on this podcast.

Some of you know, or is Miss Peggy, others as America's grandmother.

Me, I call her mom.

Oh yes, in mere moments, the one and only Margaret Roe will stop by to evaluate my final chapter,

past judgment on my literary choices, correct my grammar, evaluate my wardrobe, and offer

the somewhat less than charitable critique that inspired the title of this episode.

It's not what you'd call a page turner.

She's also here to bring me up to speed on her new and exciting life in the retirement

community where she and my dad now happily reside.

And if that doesn't sound exciting enough, let me say it another way.

My mom, the wisest woman I've ever met, jams me into her very busy schedule to talk

candidly about the process of writing from the heart, of letting go of things you love,

and adjusting to a grueling new schedule of Ma Zhang, Ba Chi Ball, book clubs, billiard

tournaments, shuffle board, and making new friends.

It's really a conversation about letting go of that which you simply do not need.

And it picks up where the last chapter left off.

Just below the streets of San Francisco where our hero finds himself at long last face

to face with the inescapable truth of his own identity.

In the bowels of the sewer, where his long journey finally comes to an end.

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