Hey guys, it's the way I heard it, episode number 214. And this one's called,

There's a Fine Line Between a Hero and an Asshole. That's a direct quote, by the way, from a cop I know

back in Baltimore, a highly decorated cop, who, after decades on the job and multiple

commendations, had come to the

inescapable conclusion that many people who do brave and heroic things, himself included,

were in fact the very same people whose daily behavior and attitude are consistent with

that of an asshole.

I was reminded of his observation during the course of my conversation with today's guest,

an unrepentant smart ass and former staff sergeant in the army named Travis Mills.

Travis lost his arms and his legs in Afghanistan, but not a sense of humor.

He has since gone on to not only recover from his wounds, but thrive.

And today, Travis Mills is described by everybody as a true American hero.

Everybody, that is, but Travis Mills, who still insists that his actions over there were

nothing more than those of a common soldier doing his job. Anyway, Travis is here because last week on my

Facebook page, somebody asked me, in the wake of our sudden and shocking withdrawal from

Afghanistan, if I thought the war was worth it.

I responded by posting a photo of Travis and me and said that his opinion and the opinions

of those Americans who had actually fought on my behalf were the only opinions I was interested

in hearing at that time.

Well, Travis saw my post and offered to share his thoughts, not just on leaving Afghanistan,

but on heroism in general.

And I'm glad he did, because when it comes to our heroes today, I'm starting to wonder if maybe like Inigo Montoya from a princess bride, I'm starting to wonder if maybe like Iniego Montoya from a Princess Bride,

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