Thinking Basketball Podcast, my name is Ben.

Welcome back to another show. It is the draft show which is very popular over the years

so we thought why not why not run it back from last year with our resident draft expert the man spends I did like

the entire year combing through footage from every league leagues that I didn't even know existed, footage that I didn't even know existed.

You were sending us Leonard Miller clips from obscure Canadian basketball games with like 12 people in the gym.

He is the one and only Chip Jones.

Chip, welcome back.

Hello, hello, thank you for having me on again Ben.

I'm looking forward to talking about some of prospects. Maybe we even get to touch on Leonard Miller this time.

He well he he slid quite a bit didn't he. He was a he was a draft Twitter favorite and he and he went all the way down to the second round.

Yeah, but at least he got drafted this time. Last year it was he was getting the

hype and then he ended up pulling out this year at least we got we got to at

least see him get his name called and hug Mark Tatum for a very very long time he

went for like a 20 second hug. So last year we started the show by discussing the

value of draft picks we talked about that a little in the

last episode with Cody, but I just want to reiterate something that we level set

sort of the expectations on last year, which is that at the top of the

draft, you really only expect a couple players to ever be stars. You know, the

average draft might like have three or four stars or something for

chip is holding up before I think we've done some recent analysis on it but the

other thing that's really interesting and as we make our way through the lottery

here and talk about these top players. That 11 to 20-ish spot, that like end of the

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