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Gender: A Wider Lens

21 - Gender Dysphoria in Boys: Part 2 — A Conversation with Angus Fox

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6961 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2021

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Continuing the discussion about the new type of boy who is seeking to transition, we speak to Angus Fox, author of a series in Quillette. Angus explains why he thought it so important to earn the trust of parents who participate in clandestine meetings about their gender dysphoric sons. We discuss the role of systematic thinking in ROGD boys and the encouragement of their female friends to transition. Angus also provides his insights as a gay man remembering his own challenging boyhood.

Links:

Angus Fox (2021) — “When Sons Become Daughters: Parents of Transitioning Boys Speak Out on Their Own Suffering” Quillette.com/author/angus-fox/


Angus Fox — Part II Quillette.com/2021/04/06/when-sons-become-daughters-part-ii-parents-of-transitioning-boys-speak-out-on-their-own-suffering/

Angus Fox — Part III Quillette.com/author/angus-fox/

Extended Notes

  • How did Angus get into this field and get interested in gender dysphoria?
  • What are some of Angus’s biases?
  • So many parents are blindsided when their child comes out as trans.
  • The counselors and therapists are partly to blame.
  • Angus conducted a survey to see what parents thought was influencing their children to become trans.
  • What did Angus uncover after conducting this extensive research?
  • These boys are often bright, socially behind, and very online.
  • Angus noticed that a lot of these boys were playing particular RPG games and it gave them a false illusion of what the female aesthetic really was.
  • These very intelligent boys, who often have intelligent answers to things, are giving parents very strange and almost immature answers as to why they want to become a woman.
  • Predatory men online could be further exacerbating the problem.
  • How do these boys end up relating to their own sexuality?
  • We’re seeing a rocketing number of people who are saying they’re bisexual.
  • What benefits do these gender dysphoric boys get by joining a girl clique?
  • Why are young women so obsessed with dressing up their new toy?
  • So many families are just lost and don’t know what to do.
  • Want diversity and inclusion? You should see these groups. They’re diverse and they’re all worried about their child.
  • When you talk to de-transitioners, they all have a level of wisdom about who they are and what they want.
  • Did Angus see a connection with autism in his surveyed group?
  • What kinds of reactions are mom and dad having when it comes to having a trans teen?
  • Children are taking fewer and fewer risks in our environment. As a way to rebel, they’re taking risks on their bodies and their personal identity instead.
  • Angus is curious about the child birth order and where trans children fall under. If they have a big family, small family, and where are they in the birth order, does it impact their identity?


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0:00.0

You're listening to gender, a wider lens.

0:04.0

I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

0:06.5

And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

0:10.6

Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens

0:16.1

and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning

0:20.7

teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and

0:24.2

individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the

0:28.1

concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens.

0:35.0

Hi Stella.

0:38.0

Hi, Sessia.

0:40.0

How are you?

0:41.0

Doing great.

0:42.0

Good. We've got an interesting guest today. We've already done boys part

0:47.8

one and no sooner did we do it and we thought we wanted to explore this subject further and we were kind of intrigued by the series of articles that were released in Colette.

0:59.7

And Angus Fox is the writer and we are delighted that Angus has made his time to come on our

1:09.9

podcast.

1:10.9

So you're very welcome Angus.

1:12.4

Would you like to introduce yourself?

1:13.7

Yeah thank you so much for having me I will. I suppose that the best thing I would say

1:18.8

is that I'm an accidental journalist I've accidentally become a journalist because of transgenderism, which is not a sequence of things I ever expected to come out in my mouth at all.

1:30.0

I work elsewhere in academia and really this is a COVID story so COVID hit work

1:39.2

dropped off a cliff watching too much Benjamin Boyce.

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