You're listening to gender, a wider lens.

I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens

and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning

teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and

individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the

concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens.

Hello there, Stella.

Hi Sasha, I'm looking forward to this episode.

Oh yes, I think we've been saying that for lots of episodes.

Have we?

Yeah, we probably have.

But it's all fascinating.

I do want to preface it with every one of these episodes we just touch upon we open it up

because that's the idea that we're opening up the conversation. Yeah and today we're

going to give an introduction to very, very important topic, which is gender dysphoria in boys.

And you know, we're aware that parents of boys have often felt kind of neglected by the movement to

you know prevent childhood transition or to bring light to this topic. And every time boys are discussed when they are,

which isn't often, you know, we will hear about the typologies

and the research of Ray Blanchard and autophilia, which are, you know, categories that were perhaps relevant at a different point in time, which continue to be relevant relevant but you and I have kind of observed

that there's something else going on here so we have to broaden the way we talk

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