You have different types of personalities who become stalkers. I think the one thing that I've noticed

that particularly with the ones that I've interviewed is this habit of pushing the boundaries.

I think that is a one common denominator

that I can see in the cases.

They just can't let something go. Oh, I'm Jamie Beebbei and I'm Jake D'Tula. On today's episode of Strictly

Stalking we're speaking with Julia Cowley, a retired FBI agent and profiler. Julia spent 22 years in the FBI. Julia

a retired FBI agent and profiler.

Julia spent 22 years in the FBI investigating violent crime, white collar crime, public

corruption, civil rights, and stalking cases.

interviewing both the victims and the perpetrators.

Now she's here to share her experiences battling crime and reveal how she analyzes criminal

behavior in her new podcast, The Consult, Real FBI Profilers. Julia, thank you for joining us today.

Thank you for having me today.

Was it always a dream of yours to join the FBI?

It was. And I'm always amazed when I hear stories from other retired

agents or agents that say oh I just fell into it I just happened into it but that

wasn't the case for me I knew I wanted to do something in law enforcement. It all started when my mother was reading Helter-Skelter about the Manson murders and she told me I was too young to read it I think I was in middle

school and I took it and read it anyway and I was hooked and I only wanted to read true crime

cases how they were solved I'd go sit in the bookstores until I read every single book on the shelf.

And then I got interested in forensic science and majored in chemistry and college and I worked in a crime lab prior to joining the

FBI but I always knew like someday I want to go into the FBI and eventually I did

and I applied and got in and that was that was a dream come true.

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