I want to thank Chris Dorset from Seamount Financial Group for sponsoring this episode of Job with Julie.

Chris is a certified financial planner that has been helping clients for over 20 years,

and he specializes in retirement planning.

Chris is also a good friend and sits on the board of authentic intimacy,

and so is really invested in our ministry.

And if you're interested in learning how Chris can be of help for you

and your family's financial planning,

you can find out more at c mountfinancial.com

or by contacting him directly at 800-752-8766.

Thanks, Chris.

Hey, welcome to Java with Julie.

And today we are going to hear a great, sobering story of God's miraculous healing.

And I have as my guest, Kirsten, and Dave Samuel, welcome to Java with Julie.

Thank you.

Good to be here.

It's great to be here, Julie.

Thanks.

And what I love about your story as individuals and as a couple is, first of all, it's ordinary.

And what I mean by ordinary is when I read your book, which is called Choosing a Way Out, I was like, yep, that's what happens.

Yep, I saw that one coming.

Yeah, I know so many couples that have this road.

But at the same time, as it's ordinary, it's extraordinary because you surrendered to an extraordinary God.

...