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The Symbolic World

203 - Bishop Barron - A Return to Cosmic Christianity

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Most listeners would need no introduction to Bishop Robert Barron. He is the Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in the Catholic Church. He's also an author, speaker, theologian, and founder of Word on Fire, a global media ministry. I finally had the opportunity to talk with him in the wake of the recent "Four Horsemen of Meaning" discussion published on Jordan Peterson's YouTube channel (linked below). We discuss the Bible, beauty, art, how Christianity can exist in contemporary culture, and the problems of atheism, iconoclasm, social justice, ethics, addiction and the critical historical approach to religion. - The Four Horsemen of Meaning discussion with Jordan Peterson, Bishop Barron, John Vervaeke and Jonathan Pageau: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvQsqSCWjA Bishop Barron's work: - Word on Fire website: https://www.wordonfire.org/ - Bishop Barron YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wordonfirevideo ====================== Original video: https://youtu.be/BR3br53d2x0 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

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0:00.0

So hello, everybody. I'm very excited to be here with Bishop Barron. Most of you will not need

0:04.7

an introduction to him. He is the Catholic Bishop of California. He is also the right of many books.

0:11.0

He runs Word on Fire, which has many publishing, recently a publishing on Jordan Peterson.

0:16.0

And I've been with him with Jordan Peterson on his channel recently, with John Verbeki, to talk about Christianity

0:21.9

its place in the modern world. So we thought it would be a good idea to continue the conversation,

0:26.4

just both of us to talk about the Bible, about duty, about art, and about how Christianity

0:31.3

can exist in the contemporary culture. This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So, Bishop Barron, thank you for coming here.

1:01.4

Jonathan, thank you.

1:02.2

Good to see you and good to be on with you.

1:03.7

Thanks for the invitation.

1:04.7

Oh, it's wonderful.

1:06.3

I wanted to, maybe we can start off.

1:08.3

And maybe after the fact, after our discussion, what was your impression with Jordan and with John

1:13.3

of how that went and what kind of place

1:16.3

this type of discussion can have in the present state?

1:20.0

Yeah, I love the conversation.

1:21.3

I thought it was really interesting.

1:22.3

And different perspectives, you and I explicitly Christian.

1:26.9

John Verveke, I don't really know his background

1:29.3

that well. I know he's cognitive scientist, professor at University of Toronto. I found his

1:34.1

musings on kind of Western intellectual history really interesting. And of course, Jordan Peterson,

1:41.0

you know, someone that's, I think, deeply interested in spiritual matters, not explicitly a Christian, but very interested in it.

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