Hello, everybody. I am very excited to be here with Christopher Kaysor and Matthew Petrusec. They are the

authors of the recent book, Jordan Peterson, God and Christianity, The Search for a Meaningful Life,

which is published by Word on Fire, Bishop Barron's organization. And so I'm really happy to have them

here. I have the book right here. I've been diving into it, looking into it, seeing the different approaches and different arguments. I'm happy to have some time with them, to explore why they wrote this, you know, what are they hoping to accomplish, and a few of the main points that they're trying to make. This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So Christopher and Matthew, thank you for coming on. Maybe introduce yourselves a little bit.

Tell me what your background is and moving up to why it is that you even thought of writing such a book right now.

Sure. So I'm a professor of philosophy at Loyola

Marymount University in Los Angeles. And I teach a lot of courses that are related to subjects in

faith and reason. So I actually teach a course called the God of Faith and Reason. And one of the big

issues that comes up with my students again and again is how to reconcile Genesis with contemporary science.

So I have many students that are troubled by this, students who see the attractiveness of Christian faith and then worry,

well, I'm going to have to jettison all contemporary knowledge about how things evolved and whatever.

So for years now, I've been trying to show students

that if we put Genesis back into its proper context

and read it as a creation narrative

that's a rival to other creation narratives,

that actually there's no difficulty at all

in reconciling a proper understanding of Genesis

with contemporary science and evolution and things like that.

So I'd been doing that for a long time, but then I ran across Jordan Peterson's lectures on

Genesis. And I have to say, even though I had read Genesis, you know, many, many times,

I was really struck and learned a ton from his own interpretation of the text. And so I really became quite fascinated

with his work and looked at his writings and also the videos that he's done on other topics.

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