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Sophie, what do you think about pets? I mean having an animal that is effectively imprisoned

by your love, a sentient creature that you keep locked in a cage or a flat or maybe a garden.

I mean, you probably wouldn't expect this answer, but I'm in theory quite against it, because I'm a product of my mother.

We once found a tiny dwarf hamster and she just she took my wardrobe and she emptied it.

This is my mother not the hamster and put it on the floor as like almost like a huge coffin and then that was the cage for this tiny

tiny hamster. I didn't have a place to put my clothes but my mom was like we chose this life for them they did not choose it so we have to make it as nice as possible.

So I'm not a hundred percent share that I think having a pet is ethical but you know I I really like my dog. I have no regrets

Luna I jokingly call my little prisoner because she's an indoor cat. She gets to look at the birds and the squirrels, but she doesn't get to be a fierce little predator and murder them all.

I do also feel like she's got a really nice prison. Sort of feels like what prisons could be?

You know, a place to keep those who pose a risk of perpetrating crime,

or in her case killing birds,

and keep the public or the birds safe from them,

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