19. Livestreaming Killer: Would you kill for fame?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Early one morning in July 2019, Brandon Clark used his online platform to share graphic photos with his followers, including a photo that appeared to show a woman’s bloodied torso, captioned “I’m sorry Bianca”. Not long after this, police found Brandon lying on top of a green tarp. He had spray-painted the words “May you never forget me” on the ground. He had killed 17-year-old ‘micro-influencer’ Bianca Devins. Why did he choose to broadcast her murder? Sofie Hagen and Dr Julia Shaw discuss ‘e-girls’, research on jealousy and male proprietariness, and what we need to consider to avoid similar horrific acts happening in the future. Warning: Contains strong language and references to violence and murder. Archive credits: This episode contains audio from WIBX's Keeler Show and eyewitness news Utica Presenters: Dr. Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Series Editor: Rami Tzabar Commissioning Producer: Hannah Rose Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Editor: Jason Phipps Bad People is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds #BadPeople_BBC

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0:00.0	Before you listen to this BBC podcast I'd like to introduce myself. My name's
0:04.0	Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a load of sport
0:07.5	podcasts. I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with leading
0:11.1	journalists, experienced pundits and the biggest
0:13.3	sports stars. Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights
0:17.4	straight from the player's mouth. But the best thing about doing this at the BBC is
0:22.0	our unique access to the sporting world.
0:25.0	What that means is that we can bring you podcasts that create a real connection to
0:28.9	dedicated sports fans across the UK.
0:31.5	So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more.
0:35.2	Sophie, is it fair to say that you live on social media? I mean I spend a lot of time on
0:40.6	social media, especially since lockdown, it's because I live alone.
0:45.0	So it's become sort of like a community, which I quite like.
0:48.6	I feel like I have, it sounds, I know how it sounds, but I feel like I have a bond with my followers.
0:53.6	Oh, so cute.
0:55.4	So I went from I think like 60,000 to 100,000 followers throughout Luckdown
1:00.9	because I was there so much. But then it also like when it's such a big
1:04.3	number makes you quite aware of your responsibility you know to not only post
1:10.0	photos where everything is super tidy and nice and neat and you've
1:14.9	showered and you're wearing makeup. So I try to be quite authentic and real, you
1:21.5	know, posting messy bits as well and all of that, so, because otherwise social
1:25.8	media can quickly become this very polished world that really just makes you feel quite bad
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