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2/4: Explorers: A New History (A Norton Short) Paperback – August 5, 2025 by Matthew Lockwood (Author)

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🗓️ 19 April 2025

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2/4: Explorers: A New History (A Norton Short) Paperback – August 5, 2025 
by  Matthew Lockwood  (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Explorers-New-History-Norton-Short/dp/1324110317
Unfurling a tapestry of surprising and historically overlooked figures spanning forty centuries and six continents, historian Matthew Lockwood narrates lives filled with imagination and wonder, curiosity, connection, and exchange. Familiar icons of exploration like Pocahontas, Columbus, Sacagawea, and Captain Cook find new company in the untold stories of people usually denied the title “explorers,” including immigrants, indigenous interpreters, local guides, and fugitive slaves. He highlights female voyagers like Gudrid Far-Traveler and Freydís Eiríksdóttir, Viking women who sailed to North America in 1000 AD, and Mary Wortley Montagu, whose pioneering travels to Constantinople would lead to the development of the world’s first smallpox vaccine. Figures like Ghulam Rassul Galwan, a guide for European travelers in the Himalayas, reveal the hidden labor, expertise, and local enthusiasm behind many grand stories of discovery. Other characters, like David Dorr, a man born into slavery in New Orleans who embarked on a Grand Tour of Europe and Egypt, embody discovery and wonder as universal parts of the human condition.
As Lockwood makes clear, people of every background imagine new worlds. Adventurers from every corner of the globe search for the unknown and try to understand it, remaking the world and themselves in the process. Exploration is for everyone who sets off into the unknown. It is the inheritance of all.
1492 TAINO PEOPLE GREET COLUMBUS

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I'm John Batchwood, Professor Matthew Lockwood. His new book is Explores and, a new history. We've dealt with the classic period. Doubt, doubt, doubt, fragments, archaeology. And here we are. Still looking for some of the details in Marco Polo's adventures. Columbus, however, discovers America. However, we've taught that. There's a lot to say about Columbus's brutality and greed.

0:59.0

However, what I find in Matthew's book is a new point of view.

1:03.0

Matthew, who are the Taino ambassadors, and why do they want to go to Europe?

1:08.0

I mean, I think they are, the Taino are indigenous peoples from the Caribbean.

1:14.6

They are the people who greet Columbus when he arrives.

1:18.6

And I think one of the really interesting things about the idea of discovery is that it is very much in the eye of the beholder.

1:25.6

It's all about perspective. So Columbus is thought of

1:30.1

discovering the America in 1492 when he arrives in the Bahamas. But for the Tino, this is a discovery of

1:37.6

something new as well. This moment is a moment of discovery from their perspective, too. They are discovering

1:43.5

new worlds and new peoples as well.

1:46.0

And so I wanted to write this familiar story from their perspective as much as is possible to recover that perspective.

1:56.0

And they are some of the first to not only to meet and greet a person from Eurasia, but to travel to Europe as well.

2:06.6

And so just as Columbus discovers the Americas in 1492, these Taino ambassadors also discover Europe for their own people.

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