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2/2: #Ukraine: War drums rising in the EU & What is to be done? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute.

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🗓️ 10 February 2023

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2/2: #Ukraine: War drums rising in the EU & What is to be done? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-calls-international-probe-into-nord-stream-blasts-after-blogger-report-2023-02-09/


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Mr. CBS, I am the world. I'm John Datshe with my colleague, Anatole Leibin of the Quincy

0:39.3

Institute for Responsible Statecraft, writing most recently of the South Caucasus, especially

0:45.3

the contest between the remnant of the Soviet Empire that is now the Republic of Azerbaijan,

0:52.1

the Republic of Armenia. Turkey, of course, is a member of NATO and a dominant player

0:57.6

in the region. Georgia is part of the story even after the conflict of 2008. Already

1:04.5

I've had too many caveats here. So I go to Anatole. Your remarks, Anatole, point to the

1:10.8

fact that the South Caucasus remain extremely dangerous. The war fighting in late 2020 has

1:16.1

not been resolved. There's accusations on both sides about mining, demining, peace

1:21.1

talks have been postponed several times. Russia is said to be a player here for peace, but

1:29.0

Russia and Turkey are sometimes at odds, sometimes together. So I've, having traveled in the

1:35.0

region over the years, weighed on this and have no a special understanding of how it can

1:41.3

be solved. Your suggestion is that right now what we need is talks between Yerevan and

1:47.9

Baku. Is that going to happen?

1:49.4

Well, it has happened quite often in recent months or of the past year, but it hasn't

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