I'm John Batchel with my colleague Anatole Levin.

We're going to Moscow, Moscow point of view, not only on the Ukraine matter,

which is pressing the European leaders in yet another emergency meeting in Brussels,

but also the large story of nuclear arsenals, conflict between three powers with nuclear weapons,

that would be Beijing, Moscow, and Washington, and a return to the detente or something that

looks like it of the Cold War. And I told Mr. Trump at one point used a word that has many meanings, but he talked about denuking, denuking.

And there's been indication from the Trump administration in conversation with Moscow that they'd also like to bring in Beijing and talk about reducing the defense budget,

reducing the nuclear weapon arsenals, or even eliminating them.

That's a very large picture.

And your opinion of, is this a possible moment for it, Mr. Trump turning to Moscow rather than Brussels in the road ahead?

Well, yes, I think it certainly is. And I mean, what this also indicates, of course, is that Trump, in a way, sees himself as the new Reagan, you know, who is going to do a deal with Moscow, including, of course, a nuclear

deal, though, you know, in that case, it was Soviet withdrawal from Eastern Europe that ended up

being on the table. But, I mean, obviously, there would be huge, huge complexities about this, especially

if you bring in Beijing. And I don't think it will lead to countries abandoning nuclear

weapons. But certainly, you know, Russia has been demanding, you know, NATO arms limitations in Eastern Europe.

Now, that's not acceptable as it stands, but if you could weave this into a mutual nuclear

reduction agreement, you know, for example, the US does not station intermediate

weapons in Germany and Russia withdraws its from Kaliningrad and Belarus. Then this begins to

look like the basis of a possible compromise deal that would not, you know, simply be surrendered to Russian demands.

And bringing in Beijing, is that a bridge too far because Mr. Trump and his counselors have

spoken of it or at least look to it?

The trade war has a leverage point for the disarmament or the arms control.

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