I'm John Batscher with Peter Berkowitz of the Hoover Institution, a senior fellow looking

at a senior fellow at Washington's Ethics and public policy center.

This is the very famous and extremely compelling Lance Morrow, who started with Time magazine

in the 1960s.

I remember reading him without knowing I was reading him

because initially, well,

Time magazine did not sign his pieces.

Now he writes for the Wall Street Journal editorial page and he has

recommendations about journalism as well in the 20th century and the 21st.

What is his measure today, Peter, of the 21st century?

He is deeply concerned about what journalism has become in the 21st century

and there are two causes that he identifies force transformation.

One as I mentioned is is the teachings in our schools and our colleges that reality at the end of the day is subjective so you might as

well go with your subjective views but he also identifies the influence of the

internet and social media which amplify voices which put a premium on making

sensational statements we count our journalists count their

hits now which incentivizes preferring the outrageous to the to

the accurate and this plays upon the vanity that all journalists have

have always had to have their views or their writings out there.

So he sees a tip in the proper balance that ought to inform good journalism.

A proper good journalism is informed by a,

he writes a nice phrase, a disciplined reverence for the facts and for compelling storytelling.

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