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2/2: #BERLIN: #EU: Is Europe Ready to Defend Europe? Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Editor-in-Chief: Strategic Europe, in Berlin.

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🗓️ 21 February 2024

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2/2: #BERLIN: #EU: Is Europe Ready to Defend Europe? Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Editor-in-Chief: Strategic Europe, in Berlin.
https://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/91648

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0:00.0

This is a moment to think about NATO and the

0:05.0

This is CBSi in the world. I'm John Bachelor spending a moment to think about

0:10.0

NATO and the European Union and the threat felt because of the Ukraine war but then

0:17.0

there is this other detail. There's an election imminent in Russia. Mr. Putin is running again for president, which is about as close to being a dictator as you can get right now.

0:29.0

The death of a man named Navalny.

0:31.0

What does that mean for Europe? Yes, we see the fighting in Ukraine. Yes, we see the defeat in Avdivka. Yes, we see that Ukraine's out of shells. But when we come to Navalny's death, that's a blow to freedom lovers everywhere,

0:47.2

especially to what you'd have to say is the ability of countries to deal with Russian agents coming into them and murdering people.

0:57.0

2005 Lippenenko, 2015 Nemsov at the Kremlin, 2018 the poisoning of Scripples, father and daughter in the United

1:09.0

Kingdom.

1:10.0

20 the Novocuchuk poisoning of Navalny on its way from Siberia and now the death of

1:15.4

Navalny. This is more than just guns and shell fire. This is about not

1:22.2

respecting sovereignty and sending your agents to murder your opponents.

1:26.0

Judy, is that going to move the European Union or UK in a fresh way?

1:30.0

If it doesn't, it'll be very disappointing.

1:35.0

The death of Navalny is about the death of an immensely courageous man who really wanted to give Russia a brighter future.

1:47.0

And what he symbolizes also is the courage of the Ukrainians.

1:52.0

Courage is such a special value, it's such a special element in human nature,

2:00.1

the Valenay epitomise this and the Ukrainians are doing this.

2:03.6

And somehow the Europeans are not recognizing that courage is about defending freedom and taking huge

2:11.1

risks to do this on behalf of other people and the citizens and it's

2:16.7

very hard to gauge if the Europeans are really shaken about this yes and complain

2:22.0

yes this is terrible. Oh, yes,

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