1KHO 824: The Human Toll of Unchecked Power | Karen Hao, The Empire of AI

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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In this eye-opening conversation, journalist and bestselling author Karen Hao pulls back the curtain on the AI race, revealing the hidden human, environmental, and economic consequences behind the technologies reshaping our world. Drawing from years of reporting and hundreds of interviews, Karen explores who holds the power, who pays the price, and why the story of artificial intelligence is ultimately a story about people. This episode will challenge assumptions, spark important conversations, and leave you thinking differently about progress, ambition, and what kind of future we actually want to create. Get your copy of NY Times Bestseller The Empire of AI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:23.2	Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast.
0:25.3	My name is Ginny Urge. I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside.
0:28.3	And I have just read a phenomenally good book.
0:32.3	It is called Empire of AI.
0:34.8	It is a New York Times bestseller, Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Altman's Open
0:39.6	AI, the author Karen Howe is here. I am so honored and excited to talk to you. Karen, welcome.
0:46.0	Thank you so much for having me, Jenny. This book is masterfully written. I have so many notes.
0:53.8	I learned so much. It opened my eyes to so much.
0:57.0	There were so many things that are going on in our world that I didn't know. So can you tell the
1:01.4	audience about your history here that you have been researching AI for quite a while as a journalist
1:07.0	and you have been in conversations with people at OpenAI for years and years and years.
1:12.5	In fact, you were the first journalist to gain extensive access to the company and to write its
1:16.9	first profile.
1:18.0	You've written about AI and its global impacts for MIT Technology Review, the Wall Street Journal,
1:23.8	The Atlantic, and this book is based on over 300 interviews with around 260 people.
1:29.7	You have all these fact checkers that you think at the end of the book.
1:32.9	This is extensive, but so interesting.
1:37.2	I mean, it was such a patron.
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