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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 823: The Radical Power of Sticking With Something | Shawn Johnson and Andrew East, The Courage to Commit

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The most meaningful lives aren't built on endless options. They're built on the courage to choose. In this conversation, Olympic gold medalist Shawn Johnson and former NFL player Andrew East share why commitment has become one of the most misunderstood ideas of our time and why the things we want most like joy, calm, mastery, deep relationships, thriving families, and meaningful work are found on the other side of sticking with something long enough to see what it can become. From marriage and parenting to athletics, business, and life beyond the spotlight, Shawn and Andrew offer a refreshing countercultural message for anyone feeling distracted, discouraged, or tempted to start over. This is a conversation about choosing depth over options, purpose over pressure, and believing that the life you want is worth building one committed day at a time. You're gonna love it!!! Get your copy of The Courage to Commit here Listen to The Couple Things Podcast Check out Andrew and Shawn's YouTube channel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name was Ginny Art and the founder of 1000

0:27.8

Hours Outside and wouldn't you know, Olympic gold medalist Sean Johnson and NFL player

0:34.8

Andrew East are here. Let's go. Thank you for having us. Welcome to the

0:41.6

both of you. It's so good to meet you. You wrote a new book called The Courage to

0:45.5

Commit. We're going to be talking about that and other things today. It is an incredible book.

0:49.7

I liked it from the very beginning. It encouraged me personally. And I feel like these are some of the things that I want to pass on to my kids in this uncertain age. But I want to tell you yesterday, I think our kids were like not quite watching TV by the time the Olympics were on. So anyways, I was showing him some of your videos yesterday, Sean, and they just kept going, well, she is so cute. Thank you. How is she so cute?

1:11.6

That's what they said over and over again.

1:14.6

So it is an honor to have this conversation and I truly, like on a personal level, got so much out of the book because it's a wishy-washy time in the world.

1:25.6

And it can be scary to stick with with stuff and people are kind of

1:29.3

bouncing from thing to thing so you both have a history of commitment and so you wrote this book

1:35.6

about having the courage to commit embracing the radical power of sticking with something so I want

1:40.6

to talk about some of the stuff in here and encourage people to go grab a copy. It's out now.

1:46.0

You talk in this book about the uncertainty in the world, but that the unknown is where all the good stuff lives.

1:52.0

And you talk about how commitment has an image problem.

1:55.0

You use the phrase commitment phobia.

1:58.0

We've been conditioned to think commitment is a drag that is false. And then you go on to

2:03.4

talk about all the wonderful things about commitment. I wanted to hit on a couple of them.

2:08.7

The first one being, it helps you to be more calm. So you give two different situations in the

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