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Welcome to the 1,000 hours outside podcast. My name is Gin Ertum, the founder of 1,000 Hours Outside, and I am thrilled to have Dr. Cina McCullough back. She is a co-host of this phenomenal podcast called Beyond Labels with Joel Salatin. They have this book that we've talked to about before called Beyond Labels, which is a phenomenal book. And then,

Sina, you just came out with a new book called Hands Off My Food, How to Defend Your Food,

Health and Freedom. I learned so much from it. Welcome back. Oh, thanks for having me. I love

being here. Yes. Okay. So we're going to briefly talk about your backstory because we talked

about that in the other episode.

People can go back and listen. But your backstory is you got a PhD in nutrition, a PhD from University of California at Davis.

So you're this expert in food, but you became debilitatingly sick. And if you read your story in this book or you talk about it in Beyond Labels, this is just

something that like escalated and escalated.

Like you know, you're trying to, you have a tumor on your eye.

You know, you can hardly eat any types of foods.

The list keeps getting shorter and shorter and basically you think I'm perishing.

Yeah.

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