You're going to be. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside Podcast. I am so excited about today's episode. I tell you what it was like almost like the middle of the night and I immediately sent you a message because I just started your books. I've got Lenore Schenese on today.

And she just wrote this phenomenal book.

Phenomenal.

It's gonna come up backwards to everyone else.

But free-range kids, how parents and teachers can let go and let

grow this is actually the second edition and I just enjoyed it so much I've

been so excited to have this time to talk with you I going to read your bio real quick so people can know about you.

Lenore is a president of Let Grow, a nonprofit promoting childhood independence and

resilience, founder of the free-range kids movement.

She is also a speaker, a blogger, a syndicated colonist,

and author and a reality show host.

How fun! A mother.... That's so cool though, a mother who lives in

Queens, her controversial decision to let her then nine-year-old son take the New York

City subway home alone, became a national story, and promoted massive

media attention. She was dubbed America's Worst Mom.

In response, Schenasey founded the book and blog Free Rage Kids with the aim of fighting the belief that our children are in constant danger from creeps, kidnapping, germs, raids, flashers, frustration, failure, baby snatchers, bugs, bullies men, sleepovers, and or the perils of the non-organic grape let grow continues the quest to make it easy normal and legal to give kids

back some old-fashioned independence of thought and deed what a bio!

Go and I need now that's What a bio. I think I can leave now.

That's it, that's me.

Fine on, see you later.

So Lenore, I've been sharing this quote of yours for a very long time.

And I had not read your book yet. So the quote I've

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