We have had a lot of conversations on this show about how every child is different and how especially

for kids with ADHD or other learning differences, the world can feel a little overwhelming

sometimes. And if you're parenting a child like that, I want to point you to a podcast called

Everyone Gets a Juice Box. It's a space where parents are just being really honest with each other

about what this journey actually looks like, the questions, the doubts, the small wins, all of it. One part of a recent episode that really stuck with me was this

mom who was talking about how she started noticing things early on. Little signals that

something might be different, but at the same time everyone around her was saying she's fine,

and she described that feeling so well that back and forth between I know something's going on

and what if I'm overreacting. I think so many parents have felt that tension. And then when she shared this moment where her daughter said, I can feel it, talking about her body not giving her the signals she needed. And it opened up this whole understanding about how some kids experience the world so differently on a sensory level. It was such a powerful reminder that often our kids are having a hard time and the more we understand what's going on beneath the surface, the better we can show up for them. I really appreciated how thoughtful and honest the whole conversation was. So if that sounds like something you need right now, go give it a listen. To listen, search for Everyone Gets a Juice Box in your podcast app. That's everyone gets a juice box. Welcome to the 1000

Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Urich. I'm the founder of 1,000 hours outside. And what a

treat. You have Mother Nature's Apprentice. Do you go? I mean, that's what your blog is called.

And I just, I love this. It's kind of like what you're known as Dr. Pamela Stevens

Landauer welcome Pam.

Nice to be here Jenny.

Thank you for inviting me.

So you have got this cool book about the wonder of nature and it is just I was just

like shocked first of all how much I didn't know and shocked this about how much you do know. And then how much was in this book that is just marvelous about our world, thing after thing after thing. This book that you've written is called Wonder and Joy for the Wired and Tired. And it's, you know, it's not advice. It's not, you know, there's some of that in there, but some books are like, here's the advice. And if you do this, this is like, no, here's all the jaw-dropping things around you. And this is going to rejuvenate you to what's in the world. You say a guy, you call it a guide to finding inspiration and well-being in a wonder-filled world, how does someone become Mother Nature's

apprentice? Well, actually, it started out as sort of an outlet. I'm an epidemiologist and a nurse

practitioner and a clinician educator, but I investigate well-being and joy. But I'm also a fanatic

nature lover and gardener. And to sort of

balance out the whole academic part of my brain, I thought I'd start a fun blog called Mother Nature's

Apprentice. And I would talk about gardening and nature and some of that, but also how it impacts

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