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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 653: Gain Deeper Relationships Through Dependence on Others | Kevan Chandler and Tommy Shelton, The Hospitality of Need

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.9 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

What if the deepest friendships aren’t built on independence—but on dependence done with dignity? In this unforgettable conversation, Ginny Yurich sits down with Kevan Chandler (living with spinal muscular atrophy) and pastor Tommy Shelton to talk about their new book, The Hospitality of Need—and the startling idea that letting people help you can be a form of generosity. Kevan’s life is filled with “weirdly clear needs,” and he shares how friends who volunteer to help him each morning don’t experience it as a burden, but as a gift: a predictable rhythm of brotherhood, trust, and real presence in a distracted world. Together, they reframe hospitality as more than hosting—it’s also showing up to be fed, allowing others to step into purpose, and creating communities where people don’t have to pretend they’re fine. From the friends who carried Kevan across Europe (and now help other families adventure through We Carry Kevan) to the biblical picture of friends lowering a man through a roof to meet Jesus, this episode will leave listeners asking a brave, practical question: What if my needs could become a doorway to love rather than something to hide? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:30.8

Hey friends.

0:31.9

I've been meaning to record this for quite some time.

0:35.0

But usually I am uploading these episodes like a few hours before they

0:40.6

go live. It'll be like 1 a.m. and this is about to go at 4 a.m. So I haven't quite gotten around to it,

0:46.6

but I just wanted to say a heartfelt thanks for your grace. I really have no idea what I'm doing. And last year, and actually for the past several

0:58.4

years, in the fall, I've gotten sick. It's like, you know, cough and congested and all of that. And so

1:06.1

there have been several days where I've had to, I've had to cancel my recording days, like with all the guests because

1:13.7

I'm coughing and I can't talk or whatever. So I just constantly over-index. I record on Thursdays.

1:21.9

Sometimes I'll record 10, you know, usually at least 8, but sometimes 10, even 11. And I have not gotten sick. So I basically

1:34.4

have way too many podcast episodes. That's the net net. And also, people often cancel. And some

1:41.8

have canceled, but there's been very few cancellations as well so anyway I'm ending

1:47.5

the year with like 40 extra podcast episodes so I just I don't totally know what to do about that

1:55.2

you'll hear this one which I love but I've been kind of nervous to post because I cry at the end, so there you go.

2:03.6

But I've had it since the summer, and I have others that I still have that are from the summer as well.

2:10.0

So truly, I just want to thank you for your grace.

2:13.4

People are like, why are there so many podcast episodes?

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