1KHO 649: When Lost Dreams Become Sacred Paths | Mikella Van Dyke, Chasing Sacred

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.9 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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What happens when the life you’ve worked for—your city, your career, even your identity—dies overnight? In this tender, hope-filled conversation, Ginny sits down with Bible teacher and missionary kid Mikella Van Dyke, whose childhood stretched from refugee camps on the Thai–Myanmar border to hiking the Himalayas and dancing for the princess of Thailand. As a “third culture kid” who never quite fit in either Thailand or the U.S., Mikella shares how a lonely ninth-grade year, culture shock, and years of bouncing between countries left her with a deep identity crisis that eventually drove her into the pages of Scripture. Later, an unplanned pregnancy ended her dream of dancing professionally in New York City—and yet that loss became the doorway to Chasing Sacred, the ministry and new calling she never could have imagined. Learn more about Mikella’s story and her new book Chasing Sacred. Together, Ginny and Mikella explore a simple, powerful way to read the Bible through the inductive Bible study method—asking good questions, honoring context, and letting God’s Word move from head knowledge to heart change in the middle of real life with kids, frogs, dirt bikes, and dishes. They talk about daily “manna” moments in Scripture, how to spot teaching that’s pulled out of context online, why courage sometimes means defying cultural norms, and how family missions trips to Little Lambs International in Guatemala have given their children a bigger vision for God’s world. If you’ve ever felt like your dreams died with motherhood—or you’re longing for an anchor in the chaos—this episode will invite you to see your own story, and your hours outside, as sacred ground. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:39.4	McKella Van Dyke is here welcome McKella hi Ginny I'm so excited to be here and it's so cool we met in
0:45.7	person and I you know and then we got to talking and it was like oh will you be a great guest on the
0:50.7	podcast and so you said yes and here you are so you have got i got your book in the
0:55.2	mail it's called chasing sacred so we're trying to get kids outside and obviously that helps them
1:00.2	with all their facets of their development and some of the listeners are interested in the spiritual
1:04.1	side so when you take your kids outside it helps with a lot of things there's a lot of things that you
1:09.2	can tie larger lessons you know you can tie larger lessons. You know,
1:12.1	you can learn larger lessons from. And so we're going to be talking about the Bible study method
1:17.0	today that you use. It's called inductive Bible study. But more than that, about all of these
1:21.4	connections that you've made over your life. It was actually an incredible book, McCullough.
1:25.1	You were like, it would be something like, my husband pursued me with these engraved Easter baskets. And you're like, and God pursues us too. You know, it was like every single thing. There was like this tie-in. And it just reminded me of how that's how we're supposed to live. If we live in a hands-on way, we can teach our kids hands-on lesson. So you have got a really
1:45.7	interesting story. You grew up as a missionary kid. So can you give us a little bit of the
1:50.0	overview? You grew up in Thailand. Yes. So, Jenny, I'm, first of all, so excited to be here.
1:55.4	I love listening to your podcast. My kids and I are, have done the thousand hours outside challenge and we just are
2:03.0	such avid listeners and learners from you. So that's what I wanted to say first. But yes, I did grow up
2:09.6	in Thailand and I was a missionary kid growing up and it's shaped so much of who I am. And so it was
2:15.6	really, really interesting. but my parents are actually
2:18.0	Bible translators, which means that we lived on the border of Thailand and Myanmar in a refugee
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