Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Erich, I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside. And my dear, dear friend, you know I talk about you all the time. I'm like, my midwife says this, my midwife says that, my midwife says this. Beth Barbot, welcome back. Thanks for having me again, Jenny. I have really missed us getting together this way. Yes, there are other podcasts. People can go back and listen to. They're all

different topics. Someone left a review recently that I was repetitive and it really affected me

deep down in my soul. But I was like I really do feel like when people come back on, I personally

like it when people come back on because anyone could imagine when you have an initial conversation with someone. Obviously it's different because you and I know each other, but when you have an initial conversation with someone, it's kind of nerve-wracking. Like, hey, I've never seen you before. Let's have this really deep, deep conversation. So it's like a gift for me to have repeat guests because I'm like, oh, there's a little bit of history there. And I really

try hard to like make sure that the topics are different. They've got a new book or, you know,

something different. So I feel like all the ones that we've done have been wildly different

from like 50 things I hope you know, helping your kids through graduation, all the way to, you know,

dealing with six season, like the fall and air quality.

I mean, it's all been all sorts of different things.

So you are eclectic in what you know.

I don't fit very well into the niche.

You know, all the social media advisors say, find your niche and narrow down.

And mine as happy is healthy births

healthy lives because I see one leading into the other if I can help you have your daughters

and a healthier way I know they'll have healthier births their babies will do better and so I just

see it as a big continuum and I don't know how to only talk about the day the baby comes out or the

day you wonder about a cold. You know, to me it all goes together. So today in true fashion

of going into different topics, we're going to talk about my birth stories. And my whole goal,

actually, by the time we got onto this path was to make sure that we became

friends and I nailed it so I'm very very happy about that in fact I tell people I'm like I had

the last kid solely because I was like I'm losing touch with Beth like but if I have one more

I'm going to cinch the deal here with our friendship but we're gonna talk about

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