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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 609: It's Hard to Be a Person | Diana Hill, Wise Effort

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Clinical psychologist and ACT expert Diana Hill returns to help us do what feels nearly impossible in a loud, burned-out world—focus our energy where it actually matters. We talk psychological flexibility, why curiosity beats quick answers, and how “positive energizers” can lift a whole family system. Diana explains neuroception and interoception in everyday terms, then makes it practical: hum to downshift your nervous system, rub your palms and rest them over your eyes, take a short walk outside, and remember that sometimes you can’t think your way out—you have to move your way out. Along the way, we explore why nature reliably restores attention and creativity, and how parents can help kids build real-life wisdom that no app can deliver. Drawing from her new book Wise Effort, Diana shares the simple moves that metabolize stress hormones and turn big feelings into forward motion (plus the story behind her own “get unstuck button.”) We dig into genius energy, the shadow side of our strengths, and how tiny, values-aligned experiments shift relationships, work, and family life. If you’re overcommitted yet under-involved, this conversation is your trailhead back to presence, purpose, and playful resilience. Get your copy of I Know I Should Exercise But... here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:28.6

welcome to the 1000 hours outside podcast my name is jenny orange and diana hill is back you

0:36.3

the last time you're on it was the three of us, it was me, you and Katie Bohn, Katie,

0:40.3

I said that right?

0:41.3

Yeah, Katie Bowman.

0:42.3

Yeah, Katie Bowman.

0:43.3

I had no another person named Bowman, so then I was like, am I missing it?

0:45.3

Am I missing it?

0:46.3

No, I'm not.

0:47.3

Katie Bowman, I talk about her all the time.

0:48.3

I'm like, she's back. You put me to work last time and asking me really hard questions applying to your exercise. I'm like, oh boy, she's going to work me again. So I'm ready for you. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled here. The other book is called I know I need to exercise but. And it was all these excuses. And I mean, it was a really thought provoking book that you wrote with Katie. And then I was like, gosh, I should be asking Katie to write a book together. I thought that was an incredible thing that you did. I actually, I just read your book. It's called Wise Effort. It just came out. So it's available where people can get it. And I had never heard of this act. And that's how you say people say it, right? Act, ACT, but people say act therapy?

1:29.4

Yeah, well, you're already ahead of the game by knowing that because it kind of shows your card

1:32.5

that you haven't done your homework if you call it ACT. So yes, it's act, one word, and it's a kind of

1:38.9

a new, modern, high integrity approach to, you know, living out your values. It has a lot of behavioral

1:47.9

science in it, but then a lot of sort of like that sort of deep wisdom values based orientation.

1:55.6

And I love act. It's what was behind the book that I wrote with Katie in terms of my psychological

2:01.3

orientation. But it's getting more and more popular these days. Act is being applied to

2:06.4

like chess players and parenting and all sorts of things. Isn't that interesting when there's

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