Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny O'Hurich. I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside. We're going to be talking about hospitality today, which is a word that can cause some people to break out in a cold sweat and they're looking around their house. There's like cobwebs everywhere. And I used to have a friend that talked about how often, like, she was on a schedule for cleaning her baseboards. and I was like, I didn't even know that

was a thing. And so an author of his brand new book called Let the Biscuits Burn, Cultivating Real

Life Hospitality in a World Craving Connection. Abby Kirkendall, welcome. Jenny, thank you so much.

Let me first off say, I am such a big fan of yours. And the whole 1,000 hours outside,

I mean, what a way to just get families connected and do things outside. Man, that's one thing

that my mom always said that she wished we would have, you know, just did more of was, you know,

maybe travel to the national parks instead of go to the beach

at the same time every year you know like just add some of that variety in in our life and get get us

outside and maybe make me more of an outside cat than an inside one but you know you know i tell you

what i didn't grow up doing a ton of stuff outside except that that there was less TV, so we were outside just more naturally.

And we did do, we went on vacations and things like that.

But at this point, you know, even though I'm not like some super outdoorsy person, I still find that especially in a technological age, it just helps us all feel better.

So I'd love to kick it off here.

There's a couple of things.

First of all,

you can be hospitable outdoors. You can. And that does in a lot of ways, makes things a little bit easier. So we're going to get into the nitty gritty of being hospitable in your home, in your story. And then also you have a cookbook. So people are like being hospitable in their home and they want to have some different recipes.

You can help them out with that. But I just love this part you talked about invitation. And so like we're trying to get outside. And one of the key parts about getting outside, Abby, is having friends.

You know, people are like, well, my kid doesn't want to go. I'm like, well, they would want to go if you had a

friend coming. And so you're talking this book about the importance of invitations. And I had heard one time, I don't know if you're going to agree with this or not. I'm curious what your take is. I heard someone say one time, hospitality is about how you make people feel. I was like, that's kind of deep.

You know, I would have thought like hospitality is about your throw pillows.

And they were like, hospitality is about how you make people feel.

Like, do they feel welcome in your presence?

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