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🗓️ 21 August 2023
⏱️ 60 minutes
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It always feels good to get advice from those who are two steps ahead of us in life. And that’s exactly what today’s episode is. We have the pleasure of interviewing Dr. John Van Epp, developer of evidence based relationship programs. He also has his PhD in counseling and psychology. Dr. John Van Epp has over 44 years of marriage experience himself and has raised two daughters who are also in healthy marriages. You might even recognize one of his daughters; Dr. Morgan Cutlip, who has been on the show twice before!
Have you ever been at a point in your relationship where it feels more challenging than other times? Dr. John Van Epp explains that this is completely normal. He gives us evidence based examples of when relationships tend to struggle the most and walks us through how to get through those tough times. For many couples, the same argument keeps coming up time and time again. Dr. John Van Epp talks to us about the importance of not making it a you versus me thing but rather to dig deeper by trying to act like the other person’s defense attorney in order to come up with a resolution.
We loved our conversation with Dr. John Van Epp because it felt like he was giving us the wise advice that we all need. He is at a much different stage in life than most of us and it was refreshing to hear his take on things. If you loved this episode we would love it if you left us a rating and/or review wherever you listen to podcasts.
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0:00.0 | The first thing that I would start with, your question, couples losing kind of |
0:06.0 | their closeness and their sense of personal happiness, feeling like they're |
0:09.8 | living for somebody else and they kind of lost themselves or they've lost the |
0:14.8 | us. The first thing that I would just say is, some of that is very normal and |
0:20.3 | it's okay. It's part of that season. |
0:27.0 | I'm Amy and I'm Abby and as women we are constantly comparing ourselves to |
0:33.5 | others but your life isn't supposed to look like hers. Being your best self |
0:38.9 | means standing firm in your decisions and always being willing to grow with |
0:42.7 | a purpose. We get vulnerable and real with an honest look into the challenges and |
0:47.8 | triumphs we all face. Every woman listening is the opportunity to choose what |
0:52.6 | life looks like for herself. |
0:59.6 | Today we're so excited to introduce you guys to Dr. John Van Epp. He is the |
1:05.4 | father of Dr. Morgan Cutlet. He's also a PhD in counseling and psychology and is |
1:11.7 | the developer of evidence-based relationships. Now we really like this |
1:16.4 | conversation because he has 44 years of marriage experience himself. |
1:21.8 | He's raised two daughters that are in healthy marriages and he also has all |
1:27.3 | of this clinical background in research to add to the conversation. So we loved |
1:32.8 | talking to him because it felt like he was giving us this wise advice that we |
1:38.1 | all need. He's in a much different place than we are. His little kid years are |
1:43.1 | so far behind him but he was able to bring such a great perspective that we |
1:48.8 | can all use. So without further ado, here's our conversation with Dr. John Van Epp. |
1:56.5 | Okay Dr. Van Epp, you have been married to your wife for over 44 years. |
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