1936: How to Pay for College Without Ruining Your Financial Life
So Money with Farnoosh Torabi
Farnoosh Torabi
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🗓️ 26 January 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
College today can easily cost six figures — even at public universities — and yet so many families still feel completely in the dark about how to prepare for it without sacrificing their own financial future.
My guest today knows this stress intimately.
Patricia Roberts grew up in a low-income household and nearly didn’t attend college at all. A guidance counselor once suggested she stick with her waitressing job instead. But she pushed forward, working multiple jobs, sending money home, earning not just one degree, but eventually a law degree. That education changed her family’s life… but it also came with over $100,000 in student loan debt that took two decades to repay.
That lived experience is what fuels Patricia’s passion today. She’s spent more than 25 years working with 529 college savings plans — from helping launch some of the earliest plans at Citigroup to advising families and employers on how to use them smarter, earlier, and with far less fear.
In this episode, we break down what 529 plans really are — and what they’re not. We tackle the biggest myths, from “What if my kid doesn’t go to college?” to “Will this hurt financial aid?” to “Is college even worth it anymore?” We also dig into major new changes that make 529s far more flexible than most people realize — including using them for trade schools, certifications, student loan repayment, K-12 expenses, and even rolling unused funds into a Roth IRA.
More about Patricia: She is Chief Operating Officer of Gift of College, Inc., where she helps employers improve employees’ financial well-being by offering student loan repayment assistance and matching contributions to 529 college savings and ABLE (disability savings) accounts.
Patricia is also the author of Route 529: A Parent’s Guide to Saving for College and Career Training with 529 Plans, a book she wrote with some extra time on her hands during the pandemic to help educate and inspire even more parents.
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| 0:00.0 | So Money episode 1936, 529 plans explained rules, benefits, and common mistakes. |
| 0:08.2 | You're listening to So Money with award-winning money guru Farnush Torabi. Each day, get a 30-minute |
| 0:14.6 | dose of financial inspiration from the world's top business minds, authors, influencers, and from |
| 0:20.4 | Farnoose yourself. |
| 0:22.4 | Looking for ways to save on gas or double your double coupons? |
| 0:26.1 | Sorry, you're in the wrong place. |
| 0:28.4 | Seeking profound ways to live a richer, happier life. |
| 0:31.7 | Welcome to So Money. |
| 0:34.7 | First of all, they're called college savings plans or referred to that way. |
| 0:38.8 | They're not only for college. |
| 0:40.4 | That's a misperception. |
| 0:42.3 | So these are not only for traditional four-year college. |
| 0:45.2 | They can be used at two-year, like a community college, four-year, graduate and professional studies, trade and technical school, registered apprenticeships. |
| 0:55.7 | Now, thanks to HR1, that tax reconciliation bill of last July, these accounts can be used |
| 1:03.0 | even for more purposes. They can be used for many non-degree credentials. |
| 1:10.8 | Welcome back to So Money, everybody. I'm Farnush Tarabi. |
| 1:13.9 | College today can easily cost six figures, even at public universities, and yet so many |
| 1:20.0 | families still feel completely in the dark about how to prepare for it without sacrificing |
| 1:25.2 | their own financial future. And my guest today knows this stress intimately. |
| 1:30.3 | Patricia Roberts grew up in a low-income household and nearly didn't attend college at all. |
| 1:35.9 | A guidance counselor once suggested that she stick with her waitressing job instead. |
| 1:41.4 | But she pushed forward, working multiple jobs, sending money home, earning not just |
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