193 SelfWork: A Conversation with John Moe, author of The Hilarious World of Depression
The SelfWork Podcast
Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 August 2020
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
John Moe first got my attention when I became a podcaster and listened to his very popular podcast The Hilarious World of Depression. What makes him unique and truly loved by his listeners is his transparency about his own depression and his very wry sense of humor. After making a living as a comic, a writer and then an NPR broadcaster, he faced his own severe depression. As he interviewed comedians and celebrities for the podcast, he began to see similar behavior patterns and coping mechanisms in his conversations. He saw that there was tremendous comfort and community in talking about these experiences, (including his own suicidal thoughts and the actual suicide of his older brother Rick), and that humor had a unique power.
He's now written a new book by the same name. I found him a very smart, but modest and thoughtful person who was more than willing to be interviewed by me – not the most accomplished of interviewers as this was the first one I’ve done in literally years. So, I was honored that he wanted to a part of SelfWork.
The episode is about twice as long as most SelfWork episodes; but I think you’ll find that the time flies by. He’s a warm and fascinating guy, whose lived a lot of life, and wants to share what he’s learned. As a therapist, I wanted to know more about his depression, rather than about the podcast. And my questions reflect that. If you’ve ever been depressed, lived through a complex family life, even wondered if your depression might’ve been handed down to you within your family – what’s termed transgenerational trauma - this is the episode for you. Come laugh. Come learn. And come join me and John Moe for a conversation about learning to live with and manage chronic depression. .
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| 0:00.0 | This is self-work and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford. |
| 0:13.0 | At self-work we'll discuss psychological and emotional issues common in today's world |
| 0:19.0 | and what to do about them. |
| 0:20.0 | I'm Dr. Margaret and self-work is a podcast dedicated to you taking just a few minutes today for your own self-work. |
| 0:30.0 | Hello and welcome to self-work. I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford a clinical psychologist out of Fayette |
| 0:35.0 | Arkansas. Today we have a very special episode of Self-Works. It's a conversation that I had with the |
| 0:41.6 | author of the Hilarious World of Depression, John Mo. |
| 0:45.0 | John first got my attention when I became a podcaster and listened to his very popular |
| 0:50.3 | podcast. What makes him unique and truly loved by his listeners is his transparency |
| 0:55.6 | about his own depression as well as a very wry humor. After making a living as a comic, a writer, |
| 1:02.4 | and then an NPR broadcaster. |
| 1:04.7 | What he did was phenomenal. |
| 1:06.3 | He faced his own illness and began to see similar behavior patterns and coping mechanisms |
| 1:11.7 | when he was talking with others. He saw that there patterns and |
| 1:15.0 | those coping mechanisms when he was talking with others. |
| 1:14.0 | He saw that there was tremendous comfort and community |
| 1:17.0 | in talking about these experiences, |
| 1:19.0 | and those include his own suicidal thoughts |
| 1:22.0 | and the actual suicide of his older brother Rick. |
| 1:25.2 | He could also see that humor had a unique power and the podcast was born again the |
| 1:30.4 | hilarious world of depression which has had more than 10 million |
| 1:34.0 | downloads he's interviewed lots of celebrities comedians and mostly famous people |
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