I look at the physical world and the digital world, the combined word of the fidgetal world is the new term now and that's the combination of the physical and the digital and where they overlay and we're actually going to be living in this digital world in the future where things

like NFTs and the Metiverse and having a Metiverse strategy is going to be so important

for every person who wants to participate in that wave of technology that could be the next biggest thing. I'm going to do.

The new. The new. So Lisa what I'm hoping for today's podcast is to pick up a conversation that you and I had, I think, in multiple points in our interaction in Cancun.

The first time I saw you was you just kind of breezing through in a summer dress, sauntering off an airplane. I imagine in my mind just straight into the, I guess, a little kind of get get together prior to the workshop and I was blown away that you just literally kind of got off an airplane and you're ready to socialize and network and do all the things that you do only to later realize and learn that you're an introvert?

Like what?

How is that possible?

And then when you started talking about all the exciting crazy things that you're doing, my mind started to melt.

Now I like to think I'm kind of up to speed with stuff, but I want to describe to our listeners

that you're kind of from the future, quite literally. I feel like you're a time traveler,

maybe three to five years ahead of everyone else and today my intention is to just have a conversation

with you to find out like what's it like in the future?

So I have so many questions for you.

Now, before I go any further, for people who don't know who you are, can you introduce

yourself, please?

Absolutely.

I love to introduce myself now as an energized introvert and I think you've picked up on that when you first met me and that I am so excited about the opportunity that we actually have being alive today.

I think we've never lived in such an amazing time and such an abundant time with more access

to food, water resources to be able to do anything that we want. And so I'm a little bit of Iron Man in training,

love superheroes and superpowers that it gives us.

And I think my background being I was actually, I don't usually lead with this, but chartered accountant by trade who ended up

specializing in tax law and then jumping ship over to work for an engineering firm and own an engineering

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