Hi, welcome everyone to the podcast, welcoming you to the podcast where I work with May and she is 52 days off weed and alcohol and she she is judging her 12-step program.

And she believes they are powerless,

and they believe they are addicts for life,

and she believes they are stuck in their victim's story. I mean, she goes on and on and on about this 12-step story. You know in my

experience it's like witnessed as a true addict addicted to what what we're thinking and believing.

She goes really deep into this so I'm so glad you have dropped in and with no further ado.

That's do, that's innocent in judgments

of 12-step programs according to this amazing addict that I imagine that some of us can really relate with.

May, hi May, hi May. Hi May. Hi Kaye. Hi Katie. Hi Precious. So what's going on? You have a

work sheet? I have some beliefs written. I have literally if you could see my room I have like pieces of paper on the ground with

shit I'm so crazy Katie.

Well you know in the past, but right now, you know, there's a smile on your face.

You're wearing your bloods, you know, looking good, looking good.

Thank you. you know looking good looking good.

Thank you. I'm 52 days off of weed and alcohol.

Oh wow. Oh my gosh and you know sobriety is a state of mind and the body follows in in

earth school. So it's a beautiful experience, beautiful experience and it's something that humans aspire to, you know, it's a beautiful thing, this,

testing that's life and what it's like from one state to another.

Yeah, yeah, it's hard though, to another. Yeah. Yeah.

It's hard though because I stopped smoking and I started having all these feelings come up and

realize where I wasn't setting boundaries in my life, I wasn't honoring my nose,

saying yes when I didn't mean it, and I broke up with my boyfriend. I'm thinking

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