There wasn't even a reason. They just wanted to kill someone. It's just horrifying. It's just horrifying.

Why did they pick this particular guy? Why did he become the victim of a premeditated murder on that day?

They were both really angry with me and they said, well that's not the way we do things here in the county.

So I'm here now. That's why I do things.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente Retired, FBI Profile Reformer, New York City prosecutor, writer producer for CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is...

Hi everybody. It's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor Jim. We have to get right back into the action with one of our favorite guests.

Is back with us again and she is.

Hi Jim. Hi Francie. It's Kay Winfrey, former state, federal and local prosecutor. And I'm here to finish my story that happened to me at the local level.

Awesome.

Well, I explained what has happened. I said, you know, when I came, we met with all the staff. We told them that I couldn't be on anything.

But it slipped to the cracks and I said, it's my fault. I bear the responsibility and I can assure you it will never happen again.

So just for your benefit, Francie and Jim, I have to put the glasses back on again. He looks down at his book and he looks back up at me and he says, and takes his glasses off her face.

I find that there has been no willful violation of the rules of professional responsibility. Like when we're in some kind of...

Yeah, I've been hearing, right?

Well, just so he knows, I mean, in New York state and in New York City prosecutors get a buy. I mean, you get 18 months to try cases after you pass the bar.

Like you could before you're admitted, you could just...

Yeah.

You could just... You can try cases because you've already gone through the incredibly onerous process of being hired by the state or the city.

So they just let you... They wave you into the bar and you just have to file the performer paperwork within 18 months.

So you must remember K that at some point in the Department of Justice and for all I know it's still a rule in some places, they did not require us in federal court to be members of the states in which we sat.

No, because federal court, state court were different.

Well, in it wasn't the case in every state now, I have to say in Georgia, the Georgia bar required it.

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