What would make someone who obviously does not want to get caught?

Tell a girlfriend what he did.

When you use a knife, you're not afraid to get dirty.

You're not afraid to actually look the victim in the eye or have the victim look you in the eye.

Four young men had gone into the woods, great cynical woods, and only three of them came out.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case.

This is Jim Clemente, your tire to be our profile at former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of CBS's Criminal Minds.

And with me today is...

Hi everybody, it's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor.

And now producer with Jim Clemente on so much upcoming good stuff for you to see and hear.

That's right. And with us today is one of our favorite return guests.

Hi everybody, it's Kay Winfrey here in my dining room in Rockville, Maryland.

After that introduction, I feel kind of inadequate to say that I was a local, state, and federal prosecutor, but it's been a while.

Well, it hasn't been that long. I mean...

Not too long.

No, I mean, Francie, she was one of those things.

Stop it, I can't tell you Kay, I'm...

Long, long time ago when...

Jim is just like this.

No more coherent.

I don't know what the problem is, but I do have to say Kay, I bet you're like me.

You see some of the big cases happening around the country now.

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