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No. who may appear on the Light the Fight podcast. Hey everybody, welcome to that episode of Light, the Fight, and this is the episode where Heidi and I will share with you what we still haven't learned in four years doing this episode.

That is right.

We are now officially on our fifth year, actually as of a a couple weeks ago but it took us a little while

to get to the you know the official four years in review but we're here we've been doing it for a full

four years starting on our fifth year now and yeah what do you think hidey is it real i just i don't

know i mean i just can't believe i can't believe it's really been that long.

I had to really like sit down and I had to count my fingers to make sure.

Make sure.

Well, I was the one who told you.

So you had to make sure that I was accurate with the math because I'm not smart with math.

Well, clearly, you know, it just, I don't know, there's kind of a time warp when it comes to all of this, when it comes to, you know, Corey being gone when it comes to how many times we've talked about some of these same things.

And also, I think when we got on today to talk, I was going to start out by telling David

that I needed to turn in my resignation on the podcast because I clearly

haven't learned anything. And I need to be, I need to go back to the beginning.

Well, just like as parents, we tell our kids, we say, someday this

will all make sense. So you can just tell yourself the same day, someday I'll be able to

apply all this daily instead of annually or quarterly, right? You know, you just go along and you think

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