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182 - Exposing the Secrets of Bourbon Sourcing with Jeff Hopmayer, of Brindiamo Group

Bourbon Pursuit

Bourbon Pursuit

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4.8926 Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2019

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

An insider exclusive where you get to see what happens behind the scenes of the bourbon business. Bourbon sourcing isn't a new concept but it's a hidden fortress of the industry the average consumer has no clue about. Jeff Hopmayer of Brindiamo Group tells us some of the tricks of the trade in the barrel sourcing world, how he has created a connected web across the world to get people access to any spirit, and how he has seen fake bourbon come from tankers that would fool even the best master distillers. He has helped brands like Kentucky Owl, Bardstown Bourbon Company, Barrell Bourbon and many more. This episode is one you can't miss. Show Notes: How did you cut your teeth in the industry? Talk about BRINDIAMO GROUP and some of the services you offer to the spirits industry? Can you talk about the evolution of sourcing? How hard is it to come by barrels now? How are you getting your hands on 12-14 year old bourbon when the demand couldn't be higher? So you can do transaction tomorrow for $15million? Are you looking to create blends or brands with an intent of selling? Say we want to create a brand called Old Ascot. Where do we start? How do you gauge if a barrel is worth the investment? Brass tacks, what's a barrel cost? When you get a barrel and it's big cost. Do you ever get a leaky or an empty barrel? How many brands are you supplying that are non-distilling producers? What's the typical acquisition of barrel amounts? How many barrels do you have in inventory? Are you buying a lot of younger barrels and waiting and aging? What's the level of risk introduced from buying barrels with younger distilleries that don't have a proven track record? Do you think there are NDPs that may not actually have bourbon in their bottles? Can you give us a percentage of what you think that's out there is fake bourbon? How much is stuff being reclaimed from overseas? Do you think should consumers should know if it was reclaimed? You've got very successful brands like Kentucky Owl, Barrell Bourbon, and Bardstown Bourbon Company as lighthouse customers that our listeners are familiar with. At what stage were you helping these brands out? What contributes to not being successful? What's your long term view on where this market is going? You seem to think $50+ is the successful strategy for pricing products. That seems steep to us. Are you concerned this may price out those true bourbon consumers? Are manufacturing costs and trading hands contribute to a higher cost? How do you buy barrels on the open market? Is there a dashboard of what's available like the stock market online or is it an old boys club? Talk about the 1792 Barton Warehouse collapse. Were those barrels owned by you or the distiller and what happens in that scenario? Is there a distillery NOT selling their whiskey on the open market? Any other states besides KY, IN, and TN that has a lot of whiskey on open market? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

if what is true is true that there's six or seven million barrels out there, it's hard to keep track of all of them, right?

0:07.3

And know where they are. And know where they all are. And that's just Kentucky.

0:12.4

You said if, does that mean you question that number?

0:16.6

Oh, I absolutely question that number. And I would tell you that we don't know the ages of all those barrels and how much is left in those barrels and what's there. So really, if you assume every barrel is 63.6 proof gallons when it's filled, you know, some of these barrels, if 500,000 of them are 15 years old, they're only going to make one case out of each barrel.

0:39.8

I'm making that up.

0:40.6

But, I mean, you know, the amount of product that could be out there could be something, I think, a little bit less.

0:50.0

Yeah. Hey, everybody, welcome to 2019.

1:02.3

Yes, this is our first podcast of the new year.

1:05.0

And we have got a lot of great subjects and a lot of great guests to cover in this new year as well.

1:11.9

I hope you had a fantastic New Year's Eve. You had a great time and also you partied safe as per usual. Now,

1:18.3

you might be wondering, what is happening with Burden Pursuit in 2019? I took some time to reflect on

1:24.2

2018, and it was yet another year of monumental growth for this podcast.

1:29.6

We made a lot of strategic moves to keep our innovation alive. Fred joined the show. We got to be a part

1:35.1

of Bourbon and Beyond. We had 15 barrels that were selected as a part of our private barrel program.

1:40.7

We launched our very own private label, the Pursuit series, a part of Pursuit Spirits,

1:45.2

and we grew our Patreon community to hundreds of members. Now, 2019, it's not going to be any

1:51.3

different. You're going to expect a lot of positive changes because we'll continue to pivot and

1:56.0

grow to cement our spot as the number one bourbon podcast out there.

2:01.5

So what are some of those things that we have in store?

2:03.6

Well, we've got a pipeline of guests that are going to expand our reach from culinary

2:07.7

endeavors, even to celebrities.

2:09.9

We're going to have some new help that are going to help move the production quality

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