Hey everyone, Ben Cooper Radio, episode number 179. I'm in the house with Miss Rachel, Foxy

Guy. And we've just been sitting here off air chatting through what we're trying to create with a little trip to Marbaya of the two of us.

You will have known that I did the BTM retreat last year.

We took a load of people out to Marbaya we trained we had fun we ate we slept we

we ate we chat we had played volleyball we taught we ran around an assault course we got got dirty together. We made new friends. It was really cool

And this year me and Rachel are going to do one. We're not really we're not actually going to release it till next week.

So I'm just I'm being a bit of a tease I'm sorry. We were not doing a retreat together.

Yeah, but we're not we just want to you know get some fine details together.

We want to make sure that what we're offering and what we're going to do with

people is you know it's exactly what you want we're going to be doing a lot of

physical stuff Rachel really wants to get on the gym floor with people and really

show the kind of movement side of her knowledge because

look we've talked an awful lot about nutrition on this podcast we talked about

mindset and sometimes you just want to get in the gym you want want to move, and that's the stuff that Rachel loves to do.

I love to do it, I'm just not as clever as Rachel, isn't it?

As you know, stick to more the nutrition side of it.

But this is the thing and this, you know, like we were talking about that, you know, I love nutrition.

It's, yes, it is a passion of mine, but nowhere near to what it is, you know, for you and the same with training like my passion

for coaching is in training and I love getting people on the gym floor and

obviously my business has been online for the past couple of years and you know I

really think that there's a very big difference between you know I can write that you know the best

periodized training program for fat loss for somebody you know over a 12 week period but depending on how that

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