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The Rest Is Politics: Leading

174. Taking On Europe's Last Dictator: The Fight Against Lukashenko and Putin

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

Goalhanger

News, Government, Politics

4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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How did Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya go from being a housewife to leading a Belarussian government in exile? How did Aleksandr Lukashenko become the last dictator in Europe? Why was Segei, Sviatlana’s husband, imprisoned for opposing the Putin-backed regime?  Alastair and Rory are joined by Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya who, along with Bill Browder, is part of a two part series featuring those standing up to Putin.  Join The Rest Is Politics Plus: Start your free trial at therestispolitics.com to unlock exclusive bonus content – including Rory and Alastair’s miniseries – plus ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Producer: Alice Horrell Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Head of Politics: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:46.0

Welcome to the rest of politics leading with me, Rory Stewart.

0:52.7

And me, Alistair Campbell.

0:53.6

And we are with the elected leader of Belarus, but somebody who is not

0:58.9

living in Belarus, who's living mainly in Latvia, leading a government in exile.

1:04.4

And this is Svetlana. I'm going to really struggle with this name, Tsikanovska. She is the wife

1:10.2

of the man who tried to run against Lukashenko,

1:13.1

was stopped from running, and she stepped in. And we're delighted to have her here. This is part of

1:18.5

this two-part series that we've done on Putin's Russia, from through the eyes of Bill Browder

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