Oh hi there everybody and welcome to another episode of the Love Life podcast with me, Stephen

Hussey. But we will not be talking about Love Life today or relationships or dating. We're going to be talking about something a little different, which is how to be more interesting.

So we're going to expand out from our usual content and go to a clip where Matt breaks down using a very, very popular book on writing. He actually breaks down some techniques to be more captivating, to be more charismatic.

Or if you have a public facing job or you you have to give talks or whatever it is, how do you keep people on the edge of their seat? How do you be interesting? How do you make people want to hear more from you?

So we're going to break that down and at the end of the clip Matt mentions a link, but he doesn't actually spell it out what it is. So I'm just going to tell you here so that you can go straight to that.

The link is the first five guide dot com. So it's just first five guide dot com first the word first five, the number five, then guide dot com. And I'm going to put it in the actual show notes for this so that if you go there, you can just tap the link and go to the guide straight away.

And in that I personally, it's been written by yours truly, I go through an interview that Matt did on the Elvis Juran radio show. It's one of the biggest radio shows in East Coast of the US. And I actually break down what Matt does in the first five minutes of that interview to have the audience,

eating out the palm of their hand to have them laughing at his stories to have them engaged and interested. And I actually broke down and said, look, this isn't just natural.

And natural air of charisma that Matt has that no one else can have. I show, look, you can actually apply these five principles and do this for yourself and look at the techniques he's using, whether consciously or unconsciously.

And look at ways you can apply these into your own life into your own storytelling into your own public speaking or whatever it is you do or just everyday conversation.

So I think you're really going to enjoy that again, that's first five guide dot com. I'll put it in the show notes. And if you want to email me and let me know what you thought of that guide, send me your email at podcast at Matthew Hussie dot com. And I'd love to hear what you learn from it, what you can apply from it, what you thought of it.

I'd love to hear from you podcast at Matthew Hussie dot com. All right, without further ado, over to Matt.

How can you be a more interesting person was recently reading a book called on writing well by William Zinser that I found absolutely fascinating. And I think is a great read for anyone, whether you're a writer and aspiring writer or simply someone who wants to take these principles of great writing and apply them to your life.

It was once said to me that any book on writing is actually a book about life. And I think there's a lot of truth to that now clearly it would be an insult to the writing profession to assume that we can suddenly just be a great writer by applying certain principles.

It takes an immense amount of hard work over time to be a great writer.

But there are principles that are mentioned in this book that I believe all of us can adopt today that would not only make us a more interesting writer, but would make us a more interesting speaker, a more interesting partner, a more interesting person at a dinner table that if we applied them, our charisma would instantly be lifted.

So I want to take you through five of these one by one, one of them to come from me that I've added into the mix, but four of them have been inspired by Zinser in his book number one.

Never be afraid to write about a place that you think has had every last word written about it. It's not your place until you write about it.

Now I think in life in general, a lot of us are afraid to talk on certain subjects. We're afraid to talk about certain things, whether it's relationships or places we've been or stories we've gotten our lives because we're almost afraid that we don't have anything to add to the conversation.

And if I took that view that I could never make a video about something that's been said before, I would never make a video.

What hasn't been said about heartbreak or love or romance over the last couple of thousand years, and even if you say, well, you have a dating apps or new, what hasn't been said about dating apps?

The point is, it's not my delivery on a subject until I've delivered it.

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